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Volume 38, No. 37

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EpiCenter Discrimination charge

Posted by: Publisher - Gerald Johnson on Saturday, June 4, 2011 at 12:00:00 am

On the evening of June 2, 2011, despite several instances of both explicit and implicit discrimination on the part of Epicenter staff over the years, I decided to join hundreds of Charlotteans in the weekly "Alive After Five" revelry at the Epicenter- "Where Charlotte Nightlife Begins."

After a few minutes, supporting the bar, speaking to friends, I was approached on the top floor of the Epicenter by “Pavilion Security” and instructed to “turn my hat to the front.” A paying customer, I reserved the personal right to wear my hat in whatever fashion I chose. Upon informing the guard of this I was approached by two uniformed Charlotte Mecklenburg Police Department officers.

“Is there a problem?”

“No problem at all. I'm a paid patron on my first drink. I'm not loud. I'm not disorderly. I'm enjoying the band.”

“You're not following the 'dress code.'”

“There is no 'dress code' posted, and I'm dressed for the weather- like the hundreds of other people out here...if not better.”

At this point, I was handcuffed, carried out of the Epicenter, taken to County Jail...and charged with second degree trespassing. My day in court is pending.

As I sat in my downtown holding cell until 3 am, I began to recount the numerous “unequal interactions” I had experienced at the doors of many of Charlotte's “premier” club venues. From the phantom “dress codes” to the mystery “private parties,” one theme rang crystal clear: they don't want us in their establishments.

I fully understand standards. I am a fan of true, genuine, equitable, published standards.

Still, I challenge one of you to recall a fully favorable evening at Butter, Suite, Whiskey River, Cosmos, Mez, Black Finn, Wet Willie's etc. One that didn't begin with “Do you think we can get in tonight?” An evening that wasn't spent arguing with a bouncer about the legitimacy of a private party as droves of people cruise through the door in front of you. An evening that didn't begin or end in embarrassment, discrimination, or disappointment. I would love to be proven wrong. My inbox is open.

Since its opening in 2008, I've heard a litany of complaints from ALL races about the treatment of paying customers at the many venues of the Epicenter, and it is perpetuated at all levels: from bouncer to bartender; from server to security. You can see it quite clearly: they don't want you in their establishment. Your money is accepted. Your presence is tolerated.

So why do we do it? Are we that desperate for a good time that we must continuously spend our hard earned money with people that would rather embarrass, scoff at, and arrest us? Do you not care? Are you not aware? Do you believe that your money will buy you acceptance? Would you take treatment like this from a spouse? A friend? For years?

If their door policies are any indication, your money means nothing to them. It never has. But, in this viral world we live in, reputation is everything. I am asking for you to join me in voicing your discontent. Before you put on that outfit and take that ATM card out, I implore you to take a second to think about the instances of inequality that you and yours have endured and obviously overlooked. I know I'm not alone. Inbox me your stories. This will change. Soon. I am making it my mission that they hear us, and feel it where it hurts.

 

Phillip Agnew

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Comments

LOL @ black people still crying about race. It's not race, it's behavior. If it was race you wouldn't see asians, indiand, etc.. getting into these places. The black community has a huge problem with being rude, discourteous, aggressive etc... When people don't want to tolerate it you cry racism and then you cry politics. Here is a clue, trusting in the democrats have destroyed the black family and community, maybe you should consider wising up and acting right for a change.
Posted by: Joseph on January 18, 2013 at 11:17:03 am

Interesting....I'm glad I found this article, because a VERY similar situation just happened to my fiance and myself yesterday for the DNC. We were checked by SECURITY to get into the EpiCenter and were approved to go in and having a good time for about 30 minutes until a SECURITY officer walked up to him and said that per the DRESS POLICY he could not be in there with no sleeves on his shirt. WTH? Really? I never saw a posted policy about sleeveless shirts...on top of that there were HUNDREDS and I mean HUNDREDS of people there...and when I scanned the area NUMEROUS people men and women had on sleeveless shirts. It's one thing if that is their "POLICY" but for them to escort us out of the EpiCenter like we were criminals was degrading and we were VERY embarrassed. Maybe I'm missing something...maybe there was some infamous policy board that stated he could not go sleeveless when everyone else could. We were actually dressed very casually nice...as for any type of outside festival. We are mature older adults. We were not loud or unruly...just walking around...checking the sites and having a good time, but why were we singled out? I really would hate to believe it's because he is a black man, 6'4 and muscular build. Were they scared of him?? When I asked the Security officer about the other people...or the lady even standing next to us...he said "Oh we didn't see her". Then I asked the second question of... if he was not allowed in here with no sleeves, why did your co-workers let us in? His answer "Oh...we make mistakes." I really feel like we were treated unfairly.
Posted by: Deanna on September 7, 2012 at 9:28:35 am

Interesting....I'm glad I found this article, because a VERY similar situation just happened to my fiance and myself yesterday for the DNC. We were checked by SECURITY to get into the EpiCenter and were approved to go in and having a good time for about 30 minutes until a SECURITY officer walked up to him and said that per the DRESS POLICY he could not be in there with no sleeves on his shirt. WTH? Really? I never saw a posted policy about sleeveless shirts...on top of that there were HUNDREDS and I mean HUNDREDS of people there...and when I scanned the area NUMEROUS people men and women had on sleeveless shirts. It's one thing if that is their "POLICY" but for them to escort us out of the EpiCenter like we were criminals was degrading and we were VERY embarrassed. Maybe I'm missing something...maybe there was some infamous policy board that stated he could not go sleeveless when everyone else could. We were actually dressed very casually nice...as for any type of outside festival. We are mature older adults. We were not loud or unruly...just walking around...checking the sites and having a good time, but why were we singled out? I really would hate to believe it's because he is a black man, 6'4 and muscular build. Were they scared of him?? When I asked the Security officer about the other people...or the lady even standing next to us...he said "Oh we didn't see her". Then I asked the second question of... if he was not allowed in here with no sleeves, why did your co-workers let us in? His answer "Oh...we make mistakes." I really feel like we were treated unfairly.
Posted by: Deanna on September 7, 2012 at 9:27:00 am

I still boycott Enzos for a similar experience on the eve of CIAA 2011. And I frequent there a lot. Ignored service while I watched others receive full service, on a slow and empty evening. Stevie Wonder could see what was happening. I left, went home and wrote a long and detailed letter to management. In their response/apology they mistakenly admitted that the servers recalled me and had no viable or acceptable answer to why they ignored me. Again...never been back there nor to EpiCenter. To those ignorant to speak against something they have no real first knowledge or past experience....please hush and be respectful.
Posted by: Monica on June 4, 2012 at 12:30:57 pm

shame on us Shame 14,000 National Income--3600 budget--borrow 1300 50% get 87% inidvidual income 70,000,000 workers get 13% 10% get 50% OECD rankings--#2 Least taxed--#2 Least Taxed Corporations-#3 inequality Tax Book=Chirstmas Tree for goodies for Rich and Corporations Public fund election--6 months-3 primary 3 general-debate  week=12-adequate to evaluate candidates---no $$  none Since members of Congress and White House would have no need for campaign funds ban acceptance of anything with a financial value.. This closes K Street Bribery Will we change to protect the Middle Class? Christian Nation? Care For The Least Amongst thee. POOR= most used word by Jesus Christ clarence swinney Lifeaholics of America Work For a LIFE not just a LIVING($$$$$$)
Posted by: clarence swinney on April 20, 2012 at 7:09:28 am

Private property they could say you can't come in cause your black if they want; thats the beauty of a free country. Stereotypes come from reality; turn your dam hat around and shut the hell up. Hate to paint with a broad brush but its more efficient.
Posted by: Clark on February 24, 2012 at 11:49:26 pm

Three sides to every story. Your side, their side, and the truth. I'd be interested to hear their side of the story. SOunds like people shouldn't wear their hat's backwards in epicenter. I live in uptown and go to the epicenter weekly and am a young caucasion male. One night during the summer I wore long shorts and wasn't admitted to epicenter becasue of them. Understanding security rules are security rules I begrugingly adhered to their rules and went somewhere else.It was also the night of the shooting during speed week in 2011. what's the old adage... 90% of life is how you react to the 10% that occurs to you. It's 2012 we all have the right to choose how we react. I'm sorry the author of this story that you had to spend the night and jail for wearing your hat backwards. No cool mate.
Posted by: Patrick Hanley on February 14, 2012 at 2:27:03 pm

Since 1555, We have been mistreated by caucasians. It's always going to be that way. Have you watched the republican debates? Given the chance, they will take us back to 1950. I know how to end it. Black people with wealth, help your village. That's why you all are wealthy. You think God blessed you to pretend to be someone else. It's very hard for me to watch my people die because of capitalism and greed. We did more before 1960 than we have since 1960. Most of the things we use, we invented before 1960. Black people. And I do mean BLACK PEOPLE, not African-American. You were here before Africa and America. Shame. If you were white, how would you feel if someone or some race were not trying to do anything for their own people even though they had plenty wealth. Unity is the only way up. ONLY WAY. Hey, we might need segregation again. To make us either unite or parish. Sounds like something God would do. Your fate is in your hands.
Posted by: James D Howie on January 23, 2012 at 12:24:41 pm

It amazes me how WE are quick to complain about how "others" treat us when we in fact mistreat each other - sometimes WORSE. For example, the historical Excelsior Club is under new management (OBVIOUSLY) and they have some of the most RUDE/CRUDE/SOCIALLY unacceptable staff; poor sanitation - notice the glasses you drink out of the next time; and the management is a serious JOKE......you can see this same poor customer service at Savoy Night Club.......Not to mention that during the CIAA, "WE" have a tendency to inflate/rob our brothers blind and we have practically taken over the city during this event. I may be all over the place, but personally I AM SICK AND TIRED OF THE BLACK-ON-BLACK MISTREATMENT.........so until we do right by each other - some of us need to keep quiet about how others mistreat us. SIMPLY MY OPINION!!!!! Yours truly, RT
Posted by: Reel Talk on January 18, 2012 at 3:36:11 pm

On Friday January 6th 2012 My husband, my two sisters and I went to the epicenter to go bowling at strike city. When we got to the door I kid you not before my husband can get close enough to the door the door guy said he can't get in because his pants are too baggy. My husband had on a button down black shirt and matching jeans his pants were not to baggy for a man they fit him perfectly.(I would have told him if they were too baggy because i myself hate excessively baggy jeans) keep in mind there smoking section is right in front of the door I turned around and there was about 5 or 6 white guys smoking with baggy jeans on with holes in them so I said he jeans are not too baggy look at these guys behind us there jeans are more baggy than his and they have holes in them he did not even look he just shook his head no and said i am doing my job. We was upset we. I brought my sisters there to show them how nice the place was and they only showed them how racist and how they stereo type people. My husband said oh its because i am black it has nothing to do with the jeans. " He said absolutely not" if someone is a criminal out to start trouble then they can dress in a suite and tie. Hell than the way monsters dressed and they would kill your whole family and the witnesses. So this bullshit dress code to bowl is only set up to not allow people in that they don't want to. We stayed at the epicenter for about 10 minutes I just wanted to show my sisters around and when we came down the escalater I saw him letting in some more white guys with baggy jeans on. I understand dress code and by all means I follow it and make my husband follow it as well and the crazy thing is that he is so non-confrontational and they would stereotype him. To bowl really!! If we was going to the more upscale club I could understand.
Posted by: Missy on January 9, 2012 at 2:58:17 pm

I was told that I could not get into Suite back in 2009 because I was not on a "list". Stood there and watched them REPEATEDLY let whites and asians in without batting an eye; some of whom wore ripped jeans and flip-flops. I then asked about the people they were letting in ahead of me (who obviously were not on any "LIST") and the bouncer; an Asian/white mixed gentleman smiled and said the folowing to me "I've got to look out for my people, they're Asians man" My friend and I were stunned to say the least. I went to the level above called the manager outside to tell him about what was said and he chuckled, then agreed with what was done. I then told a police officer who shared my frustration but agreed that there was nothing that I could do. I have'nt been to the Epicenter since. Very dispicable establishment, they will be shut down soon.
Posted by: Lenior Rudder on November 23, 2011 at 10:12:02 am

There are hundreds of bars, dance clubs, and lounges in the greater charlotte area. Hundreds. If you want to go out and wear casual clothing with a backwards hat, go to one of them. If you want to go to the 3rd floor of the Epicenter and be a patron in up upscale environment with executive type services, take your hat off, dress and act appropriately, plain and simple. It has the same principle as if you wanted to go to subway and eat pizza. Are you going to make a fuss about a food chain not meeting your particular expectations? Subway caters to people who likes subs. Epicenter caters to people who like an upscale atmosphere. There are cliches that we look for, and kindly mitigate, but its not our fault that certain individuals feel the need to re-enforce these cliches and then complain about us doing our job in maintaining an environment conducive to our employers mission.
Posted by: DG on September 30, 2011 at 11:19:02 am

Change is long overdue. If we accept these practices,we are acknowledging that we are an inferior race of people; which I vehemently deny.
Posted by: Evelyn Hall on August 13, 2011 at 12:50:03 am

I wrote this post on 11/29/09 after being denied of entry to Suite: I know this is really long but please read! So tonight, I went to Uptown Charlotte to go to this new nightclub called Suite. I was super excited because I have heard so many great things about this place. So my beautiful sister, handsome brother, fabulous cousin, and I get all dressed up and pretty to head to uptown for a wonderful night out. When we get to Suite, there were two bouncers at the door. We were denied entry because there was a membership. We were told that Suite was a membership only night club and if you wanted to come in you would have to be a member. Interesting. Both of my siblings have been to Suite and were never told this. At first, I thought maybe the rules had changed. People who spoke so highly of this club never mentioned a membership. So disappointed we stepped to the side and discussed what other spot we could get into. While standing there, I kid you not; SEVERAL groups of Caucasians were allowed in with no mention of membership or to show proof of membership. Matter of fact, there were some who were not even asked to show id. So what was the deal? Each of us was dressed appropriately. We were not under the influence of any kind or acting disorderly. I just could not wrap my head around what was happening. We stayed in front of Suite for about 20 minutes and watched as people once again Caucasian, say hello to the Bouncers and walked right through, again with no mention if this membership. I cannot recall how many people of color were allowed to come in. The reason I cannot recall this is that I did not see one person of any ethnicity enter the establishment. At least not during the time that we were standing nearby. So of course, we were upset and we left and continued our night elsewhere. Once we got to a quiet placed, I made a phone call to Suite and spoke to a man who said that Suite was membership only. That they were closed to new members and would reopen for some Race weekend. He did not give me a date. About five minutes later I called back and spoke to the same man and wanted more information. Now during the time I spoke to this man, he stuttered constantly and not because of a speech impediment. He told me that the price for membership ranged from 5$ to a 1000$(the 1000$ part is correct based on the website). I asked him once again when membership would be open and he said it was during their anniversary weekend which also is during some race week and if members did not renew their membership, it would be open to the public , first come first serve. He did not tell the date of the anniversary just that it was during race week. (How many weekends does Concord have races? If it?s their anniversary week wouldn?t he know the date?) Now I am home and I am doing serious research. I went to the Suites website there is NO MENTION of it being membership only. There is information about becoming a member, however the information is vague. If you are membership only establishment, should you not mention that on your website? I also searched other websites that advertised Suite; once again, there is no information about it being membership only. Next, I searched for reviews. None of the individuals mentioned they were members only that there was a nine$ cover. There were even reviews from out of towners who stated they were able to get in, again with no mention of being members. Any time I heard advertisement for Suite, never once did I hear that it was a membership only nightclub. Not on their myspace page or the Twitter page. They actually advertise free coverage charges on certain nights but no mention of membership only. So is this ?membership only? saying for those who they do not want in the club but have no good reason of denying them? There was no private party or special event. We were dressed in the right attire and we were on our best behavior so I ?m not understanding. I truly believe that we were not let in because we were black. Never did I think that statement would ever come out of my mouth.
Posted by: S. Martin on July 19, 2011 at 6:51:41 pm

I was saddened to read your post, especially it is 2011. I was happy, however, because now I have a platform to share my story. Last July, my two nieces and nephew was visiting from New York. I am a 59 years-old black woman and my nieces are 39 and 22. My nephew is 41, but looks a lot younger. Before walking over to the transit station, we decided to stop in CVS at the Epicenter. I also wanted to show my family the Epicenter, since it was a Thursday and I need a lot of people would be there. I wanted them to see that Charlotte had a night life and maybe they would consider moving down here. As soon as we approached the CVS doorway, a private security stopped my nephew and told him to turn his cap around. My nephew asked him if that was a CVS policy and the security guard just repeated his command. Not wanting to cause an uproar, my nephew turned his cap around and we proceeded into CVS. Once inside the store, we inquired whether this was a CVS policy and the cashier said that no, but on Thursdays, it happens to a lot of young black men. Through the window, we spotted two white men with their baseball caps turned backwards and that same security guard ignoring them! I was so offended and my nephew was furious! When we confronted the guard, he claimed he did not let anyone pass him with the cap on backwards! When we informed him that we were watching him from the window, he threatened to have us arrested. I'm from New York and relocated to Charlotte five years ago. I've always heard horrow stories about the South, but I foolishly thought we were pass those times. Needless to say, my nieces and nephews said they would never move down here. Please let me know whatever I can do to join your mission. Thank you.
Posted by: Catherine Davis on June 29, 2011 at 11:55:20 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etiquette..... here's a link for people like you. In the rest of the world people take hats off when they enter a building. But I guess you can't get it....
Posted by: serge on June 10, 2011 at 7:18:39 am

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